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Tuning & Modifications => TMC Motorsport => Topic started by: Bertie on January 16, 2015, 10:04:08 PM

Title: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Bertie on January 16, 2015, 10:04:08 PM
Hi all,

Does anyone have a TMC box fitted to their 595? I'm interested in getting one and would like to know what people think about them?

Thanks,

Bertie
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: S13GE on January 16, 2015, 10:09:58 PM
From what I know, Bluespark offer a much better alternative with a stronger map at a fantastic price.

I've had one for a year now and it has been flawless. Even outperforms the G-tech box too!

I'm not saying the TMC is bad but there are better options out there mate   :D
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: anewton10 on January 16, 2015, 10:18:25 PM
I have a euro 6 so I'm not to sure that a TMC or a bluespark will work properly
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: daniil1990 on January 16, 2015, 10:20:48 PM
Hi Bertie

I have to agree i purchasesd a bluespark for my punto evo for only 120 NEW and they are currently doing that deal and can change the box to a 595 i believe, again agree with Ajuna TMC is not bad just think there a big difference between 450 and 120 for possible 10% difference between the two.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: S13GE on January 16, 2015, 10:36:04 PM
I have a euro 6 so I'm not to sure that a TMC or a bluespark will work properly

Pretty sure if you call Bluespark and ask for the mapper he can advise you  :)
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Brian1612 on January 16, 2015, 10:59:13 PM
Prefer the TMC box as it is more tried and tested, why I chose it myself but I understand why people would go with the bluespark. For me though money isn't a problem, would rather not go for a cheaper alternative when it comes to something that could damage the engine if not properly tested, just my opinion.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: S13GE on January 16, 2015, 11:21:50 PM
Fair enough but this map runs well within the parameters of the sensors, turbo and all relevant engine parts. It's simply a better map, more efficient and better built too.

I have had my box running a 'harder' custom map with even more power and torque on the top or 2nd to top setting (E and D) for a year now and it hasn't skipped a beat; neither have the 4 other Bluespark owners I have regular contact with.

The TMC is certainly tried and tested, however the Bluespark box is just as safe and is priced in a much more competitive manner. Simply speak to a professional mapper and they will explain the technical side, but the only tuning box that compares is the G-tach one and that's mega money (if you have a budget that is).
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: CJ on January 16, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
The TMC box is a little more sophisticated when compared to the Bluespark and there is a dedicated TMC Euro 6 box available. But both offer and deliver essentially the same results.

I have not tried TMC Box so cannot comment but the Bluespark I have is brilliant, absolutely worth every penny. Power and fuel economy has increased, works in 5 settings and noticeably too. Mine has been set on E a week after I got it, not any problems at all.

300+ for a tuning box is a little pricey for me, let's face it the A500 needed fiddling once and another for a Euro 6 version not that much R&D really. I"m not belittling the experience, skill or hard graft to make these boxes at all but 300 big ones? Probably if I had the spare I would have gone with TMC as I tend to go with labels  :o
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: R34gtr on January 17, 2015, 06:19:04 AM
Interesting but who makes the tmc
I'm sure they are all pretty much the same but badged differently

Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: R34gtr on January 17, 2015, 06:29:27 AM
Also I think you will find the likes of TMC and GTT have much higher prices as they
Are tuning company's so people tend to go to them
Ie Google abarth 500 tuning and up they pop
But blue spark make a large range of boxes for many cars and I'm sure all tryed and tested
That is ther core business
They don't get someone else to make them and re badge
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: will-w on January 17, 2015, 08:51:17 AM
Bluespark is 175 at the moment...

And they list the Punto under "Fiat" instead of Abarth ::)
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: KK_96 on January 17, 2015, 10:15:50 AM
It's like Armani vs M&S, both do the job but one has a name and a brand to go with it so they charge more just because they can
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: daniil1990 on January 17, 2015, 11:37:29 AM
Bluespark is 175 at the moment...

And they list the Punto under "Fiat" instead of Abarth ::)

Will,if you buy the A500 box from ebay for 120 they ask you your car make and send you out an APE box if required.

Where do they list Abarth as Fiat?

Edited: I see they list on ebay as "Fiat 500 Abarth" but on their website it has its own  box selection.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: S13GE on January 17, 2015, 11:52:20 AM
when you select the make and model of car, however there isn't much point as it's listed as an Abarth tuning box anyway  :-\

yes the boxes are around 120, are you looking th the box with the additional sensor connection Will?
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: will-w on January 17, 2015, 01:03:07 PM
http://www.bluesparkautomotive.com/petrol-gasoline-tuning?carid=6615

The Punto is only listed under Fiat, it's just the 500 that is listed under Abarth
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: daniil1990 on January 17, 2015, 01:34:45 PM
didn't notice that, your right Will.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: OCDABARTH on January 17, 2015, 02:40:56 PM
does the bluespark box, pick up all sensors or is it like the tmc that only gets 2 ?
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: S13GE on January 17, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
2, but the 3rd sensor is kind of pointless anyway
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Brian1612 on January 17, 2015, 05:40:33 PM
The TMC box plugs into three sensors I believe from memory of fitting it, I think lol
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: daniil1990 on January 17, 2015, 07:00:46 PM
the new TMC is only 2 connectors as its advertised second hand a few times.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Brian1612 on January 17, 2015, 09:37:02 PM
Strange, i only got mine before christmas..?  I could be wrong mind you, was just trying to fit it as quick as i could to try it out! ;)
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Dr pepper on January 22, 2015, 11:29:45 PM
It's like Armani vs M&S, both do the job but one has a name and a brand to go with it so they charge more just because they can

Heyyyyy I work for M&S lmao!!!
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Dr pepper on January 22, 2015, 11:32:55 PM
Fair enough but this map runs well within the parameters of the sensors, turbo and all relevant engine parts. It's simply a better map, more efficient and better built too.

I have had my box running a 'harder' custom map with even more power and torque on the top or 2nd to top setting (E and D) for a year now and it hasn't skipped a beat; neither have the 4 other Bluespark owners I have regular contact with.

The TMC is certainly tried and tested, however the Bluespark box is just as safe and is priced in a much more competitive manner. Simply speak to a professional mapper and they will explain the technical side, but the only tuning box that compares is the G-tach one and that's mega money (if you have a budget that is).

I have a bluespark box too on setting C and it's an absolute hoot to drive :) although not great in the wet as it keeps spinning the wheels :S very curious on setting D would I lose abit of torque then on setting C?
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Squirt on January 23, 2015, 05:13:24 PM
Hi Bertie,
I would always go remap over a plug in box unless it's a new car under warranty
as the Tmc box can be unplugged and is therefore untraceable,also you could
Sell it on after a few years and still recoup at least 50% of your outlay.
I had an Angle Tuning remap done 8 months ago and the car has not missed a beat!
I'd definitely recommend them,Rob is the man to go to.
If you need any more info please Pm me as I've had lots of work(and more to come
next month)done by them and I'm 100% happy with the service/results.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: KK_96 on January 24, 2015, 05:46:15 PM
Dr Pepper, I'm having it RR'd on the 1st of Feb, think possible map. I can spin in 3rd even when it's fairly dry
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Scott595 on January 26, 2015, 05:40:53 PM
I have a tmc box on my 595 and im happy with it. but if theres a cheaper option with the same gains and no issues with it, then go for it
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Dr pepper on January 26, 2015, 09:38:07 PM
Dr Pepper, I'm having it RR'd on the 1st of Feb, think possible map. I can spin in 3rd even when it's fairly dry

Will you post up your results please along with mods :)

Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Mightydquinn on February 01, 2015, 06:26:52 PM
Tmc gets the boxes made and are not like universal boxes
Tmc supply tuning boxes world wide for all turbo cars
They have been going for years
The program's are tried and tested for every car
And the later boxes give you an option to increase or decrease the power
Tmc have personally run Abarth cars for the last 4 years
And offer other products too
All the mapping in each box
And harness are designed individually
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: James on February 01, 2015, 07:12:05 PM
Dr Pepper, I'm having it RR'd on the 1st of Feb, think possible map. I can spin in 3rd even when it's fairly dry

How did the RR go after?
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: KK_96 on February 01, 2015, 07:19:08 PM
Didn't make it got glandular fever, hoping to make at some point this month though :)
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: dixy on February 03, 2015, 02:40:40 PM
Tmc gets the boxes made and are not like universal boxes
Tmc supply tuning boxes world wide for all turbo cars
They have been going for years
The program's are tried and tested for every car
And the later boxes give you an option to increase or decrease the power
Tmc have personally run Abarth cars for the last 4 years
And offer other products too
All the mapping in each box
And harness are designed individually

Indeed I have had TMC boxes on both of my Abarths my current APE is TMC owned and test with the new software and loom not missed a beat.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Arhaifa on February 03, 2015, 03:24:03 PM
I did a remap with TMC sending my ecu for a few days as I live far from Europe. Incredible work, stronger, faster and feel safe also as turbo is not overboosting or lagging. Mta gearbox is also much faster! Could only recommand. Only weak point, I tried to reach Tmc several time, not easy as they/he is very busy...
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: James on February 03, 2015, 03:52:09 PM
The only problem I have had with TMC is they are not great and getting back about queries.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Mightydquinn on February 03, 2015, 09:29:46 PM
Unfortunately due to the popularity of tmc products
Daron has to travel the globe to many of the big tuning shows.
I will try and answer the questions
😄😃😀
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Dr pepper on February 08, 2015, 11:29:18 PM
Dr Pepper, I'm having it RR'd on the 1st of Feb, think possible map. I can spin in 3rd even when it's fairly dry

How did the RR go after?

Tbh trying to find a good RR in the West Midlands tbh plus I need to see how much it costs etc, it's on the D setting so if like to see the results, anyone know any good RR?
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Sylvano on March 09, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
Anybody could confirm me if for A500 595 Euro6 is there a TMC Box already avaliable? I don't see it in TMC's webpage,
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: cyberdog on March 09, 2015, 08:36:24 PM
I had a TMC box on my esseesse, then went to their remapped ECU offering after a mate had that on his car and rolling roaded at 183 bhp and 295 NM and I must say that was a step up from the box, but is of course a warranty killer.

On my Tributo I have had them remap my ECU and the Autoflash Gearbox tune and the car is avsolutely mental..

I think Daron is THE guy to go to for Abarth tuning parts and will continue my ongoing customer relationship with him.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Mightydquinn on March 10, 2015, 10:59:24 PM
Anybody could confirm me if for A500 595 Euro6 is there a TMC Box already avaliable? I don't see it in TMC's webpage,

Yes euro 6 all up and working fine.
Just send an email
Quoting AOC discount  8) 8)
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: rare on June 29, 2015, 09:23:59 PM
Does that mean you guys can supply a box for a 180 now?
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Mightydquinn on July 02, 2015, 06:48:35 PM
180 map not available yet
Tmc have one on order in Ireland
To get it all mapped up and ready for sale.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: rare on July 04, 2015, 02:47:43 PM
Keep us updated, will be very interested once its ready.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: TMC on July 29, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
180 map is now done. I have a 180 car sitting here right now, its a lot of fun.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: rare on July 29, 2015, 07:23:39 PM
Any idea on expected gains for a 180? I am picking mine up Saturday and a tuning box will be my first mod 8)
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: Brian1612 on July 30, 2015, 04:15:48 AM
Interested also, as Daron knows waiting to send my old box of my APE to him!
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: smithwellington on July 30, 2015, 06:56:06 AM
Yeah I'm really interested in the new one for the 180 too  :P
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: TMC on July 30, 2015, 08:21:05 AM
We didn't have the car long enough to dyno it, just to set up the map on the road. My own 595c 180 will be arrving in 3 weeks so i'll have more time to test it.
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: rare on July 30, 2015, 08:46:59 AM
Would this map also be available on your new cheaper units as well?

I am trying to decide whether its worth spending the extra on the more advanced unit...
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: dixy on July 30, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
Daron,
Are the maps on the current boxes upgradeable? :-)
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: TMC on July 31, 2015, 08:58:10 AM
Absolutely yes
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: WKV on January 07, 2016, 02:00:24 AM
We didn't have the car long enough to dyno it, just to set up the map on the road. My own 595c 180 will be arrving in 3 weeks so i'll have more time to test it.

Hey, any update on the 180comp remap power gains?

Thanks

Warren
Title: Re: TMC Box Views?
Post by: 595competizione on January 22, 2017, 04:14:20 PM
Absolutely yes

Still no news on this?